Old-time surfer doesn’t see climate proof

Whose head is beached?

In her assessment, President Trump “seems to have his head in the sand,” Colleen Miyose-Wallis cites “all the extreme weather the mainland U.S. is facing is undeniable” and “all the land being lost due to sea level rises, especially on Oahu’s North Shore, is proof” (of global warming).

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I can only assume Ms. Miyose-Wallis is pretty young. I first surfed the North Shore in the winter of 1969. There was pretty big surf that season for those of us old enough to remember. I no longer surf, sadly, just too old, but I still visit the country as often as I can (love those shrimp trucks).

Know what I see, Colleen? The ocean level is exactly where it was 50 years ago. I lived in Waikiki in 1970 and use to walk along the Ali Wai Canal. The canal is a perfect place to assess sea levels. Look where the high tide marks are and compare them to the levels in photographs from the 1950s. No change!

As for “all the extreme weather,” Colleen, again, when you’re my age you’ll come to realize extreme weather is a way of life for this planet. It’s nothing new: droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, wild fires. All these have always been with us. But our younger generation has been thoroughly indoctrinated in the “religion” of global warming and believes extreme weather is a new phenomenon.

Al Gore famously predicted by now sea levels will have risen by over 20 feet. They haven’t. And I, for one, was greatly relieved President Trump removed America for the fiasco of the Paris Climate Accords.

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He saved us a lot of money that would have been spent on something there is absolutely no tangible evidence of. When I see some unprecedented changes in the weather or actual changes in sea levels, I will acknowledge those changes as being evidence of real climate change. So far, I haven’t!

Dave Chrisman is a resident of Kailua-Kona.

  1. LoHa February 28, 2018 7:06 am

    Dave Crisman,

    In your article you state that, “Al Gore famously predicted by now sea levels will have risen by over 20 feet.” Your statement is not true and calls into question the veracity of all your statements. (For the record, climate scientists quoted in Gore’s movie (An Inconvenient Truth) estimated a rise of a couple of INCHES at most by 2020.) How that number gets multiplied into 20 FEET by the right wing media is why we can have no logical conversations any more.


    1. NevahHappen February 28, 2018 8:36 am

      Oh great, yet another globull warming disciple.

      Well, in my opinion, cherry picking one thing not stated to your liking does not call a thing into question.

      Your Goreacle also predicted the arctic would be ice free as of a few years ago. How is that great BS prediction working out?

      You rabid globull warming fanatics are no better than the evangelicals you love to hate. Same reason there is not “conversing” with leftists.


      1. John_Sucke February 28, 2018 2:46 pm

        Of course, Al Gore did NOT predict “the arctic would be ice free as of a few years ago!” Where did you get the information?


        1. LOL in Kona February 28, 2018 4:38 pm

          From the Goreacle his self.


          1. NevahHappen February 28, 2018 5:53 pm

            The old buffoon yelling at the sky again?


          2. Popcorn Joe March 2, 2018 9:40 am

            That is not true but if you like to tell lies, rave on.


    2. KonaRich February 28, 2018 3:15 pm

      And a movie is a scientifical fact in your mind, it’s all computer modeling at best, It started out global warming and now its climate change because no one has an idea what their talking about. And the beat goes on. Sonny & Cher.


      1. Popcorn Joe March 2, 2018 9:35 am

        More than a hundred years ago scientists said the coming global warming would cause dramatic global climate changes and they were correct.

        It is actually you who does not ,now what you are talking about.


    3. LOL in Kona February 28, 2018 4:39 pm

      And LoHa is clearly willing to pay you for the information….
      …or not.


    4. CB March 1, 2018 2:35 pm

      “Your statement is not true”

      Of course it’s not.

      Someone who thinks you can squint at the sea and figure out whether or not sea level is rising is not interested in what is true.

      (Scientific American, “New Data Reveal Stunning Acceleration of Sea Level Rise”, John Upton, February 22, 2016)


      1. Popcorn Joe March 2, 2018 9:30 am

        With the rate the freshwater ice is melting off on Greenland sea levels has to be rising a lot faster.
        It will not surprise me if we have a 3 foot or more rise of sea levels by 2020 when the CO2 level is rising at over 5ppm a year now.

        Trump better build his beautiful wall around his Florida White House.


  2. antifaHI February 28, 2018 8:37 am

    Any personal diary with measurements and pictures over these last 50 years worthwhile showing? No? Then how about trusting scientists and facts for a change!


    1. LOL in Kona February 28, 2018 4:39 pm

      Yep, climate changing is happen and we better get ready for the ice age.
      Just like the scientist predicted in late ’60’s.
      Oh, yes, and the King’s Palace, Kona, is…err…just fine?


  3. Pest Outwest February 28, 2018 3:03 pm

    Inflated nonsense on both sides of this argument, as usual. In any case, you can’t trust water levels at a specific spot for evidence of a general rise of ocean levels, a change in the climate could have effects on the rotation of the central Pacific tide rotation, which would might offset or even override a global sea level change. Another factor is the rising ground level of the islands as they are dissolved from within by ground water, reducing the weight of the islands on the crust. Countering that is subsidence due the settling of the island’s volcanic shields. There’s a multitude of things going on.

    I can say that I’ve noticed little change in the high and low tide levels where I live over the past ten years, but studies disagree. You can Google them online, I won’t bother to repeat the findings.


    1. LOL in Kona February 28, 2018 4:39 pm

      Yep, it “could” change.
      But getting grant money is the big thing.
      So, what are you doing for the ice age coming on?


  4. LOL in Kona February 28, 2018 4:42 pm

    Hey Dave,
    They “religiously believe” that the climate is changing
    …and they have been brainwashed into thinking “warm” (don’t they wish)
    ….(and send lots of money to the priests)
    when rain/cold/snow, etc is the real direction.
    and, of course, the deplorables, peons, and non-believers are baaad, baaad, baaa, baaa.


    1. NevahHappen February 28, 2018 5:55 pm

      It is indeed a religious cult for the leftists. Not a shock, as the whole theme centers around controlling everyone’s lives and behavior.

      That is what liberalism boils down to: control and power.


  5. jim williams February 28, 2018 6:39 pm

    The earth warmed after the last ice age, it cooled leading up to the same. Climate changes, that’s the only FACT, whether man has influenced the changes is the question that has not been answered. How much fine particulate matter is emitted from Kilauea every day, month , year? Mt Pinatubo ? Mt St Helens?


  6. onceawarrior February 28, 2018 10:37 pm

    The issue of differing beliefs is trivial to me in my lifetime.
    Nature prevails. Realistic people adjust to changes.


  7. Renewableguy March 1, 2018 12:09 pm

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f358d5276a8f8b71321ffe335bc0c696ca3b150a58ebc665551cfbe28d46eb2d.png

    Half of sea level rise is from the warming of the ocean. And the ocean is warming.


  8. Renewableguy March 1, 2018 12:11 pm

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/15f7d3a09f22e4b3b0df116d0c4e6959e22a1bced1aaa8baebac37060d96397e.png

    Science has done a great job of observing how the world is changing over time. Funny thing that these observations clearly are symptoms of global warming.


  9. Renewableguy March 1, 2018 12:13 pm

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7e56737cfc486c2586abdfe5c581a28dad4060f2cbd09da6430ee02fa4f66e4.png

    Is the sun warming the earth. According to observations the sun slightly decreased intensity and the climate has warmed. That means the sun did not warm our climate. Something else did.


  10. LaVerne Yarmola March 1, 2018 3:36 pm

    Aloha Dave,
    Thank you for your article; I agree with you.
    For the record, Ms. Wallis is not a young person; she is a retired teacher (and former colleague) who writes letters that the paper frequently publishes.


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